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I went to a tennessee walker show and the so many people did not show as they said the goverment shut them out of the show for NO reason and there was nothing they could do, I just wonderd what you all think of that.
I find it so hard to beleive that the goverment can just come in and say NO you can not show for NO reason,

I have a Tennessee and trail ride and do not have the big shoe horses. Thank you,.

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Comment by Patricia on September 12, 2010 at 9:21pm
Thank you all for your information in this matter.
Comment by Patricia on September 12, 2010 at 9:18pm
I know that not all sore there horses,It just looks so strange to me to see how the horses walk ,not natural AT all,but to some it is beautiful. It takes all kinds to make the word.
I did not mean to offend any one,just wondered if it is TRUE that the Goverment can tell some one YOU ARE OUT. For no reason??? I Wonder.
Comment by Tara and Nick on May 29, 2010 at 5:28pm
When Gov. shows up at any show that is not affiliated with S.H.O.W or WHOA they call it a renegade horse shows and the people putting on the show shut the show down Gov. really has no say in shutting a show down only the ones putting the show on so if the ones putting on the show don't want to go along with Gov. rules the people putting the show on shut it down because if someone happen to get in trouble for scar or sore rule then the ones putting on the show are held responsible!- And not all "Big Lick" horses are abused or mistreatedmost are given the up most best care!
Comment by Gale Jackson on April 26, 2010 at 8:40am
The government comes to the shows to make sure that trainers and others don't sore their horses and get away it. The TWH association is in a poor light due to what some people have done. However, that being said, NOT ALL padded horses are sored, and abused. That general takes place at bigger sanctioned shows where money and stakes are involved. But once again the governement has stepped in and I believe that eventually all of this will stop.
I think folks need to reconginize there are many different venues and avenues, in which horse folk participate in. Is not a barrell horse which has to be whipped to get him into the arena just as bad? What about hunter jumpers doesn't all that jumping damage their joints? What about the pleasure horses with a manufactured jog trot and their head and nose toching the ground?
My point is all horses/classes are different. Everyone doesn't want to do the same thing. Everyone doesn't want a bare foot natural horse. Its an opinion, please don't take take it out of context but, just because one person tell you something doesn't make it true. Each horse person has the right to own and ride or exhibit in the horse /class that they choose. Not one is better than the other. Their just different. Just like people.. That's my opinion!
Comment by Ashley on April 22, 2010 at 7:46pm
I was wrong...... Here are the new rules...

New show rules.... bands are optional in all divisions. Metal hoof bands such as used to anchor or strengthen pads and shoes are permitted so long as they are placed at least on half inch below the bottom of the coronet band

clips optional in all divisions when drawn from original steel, or poured...

shoe not to extend beyond bulb of horse's heel when a perpendicular line is drawn from the bulb to the ground..

shoe not to extend more than 1/4 " beyond the hoof at the toe

turn back will be measured from the front to the rear of the caulk

Country Pleasure
max 3/8 x 3/4" stamped steel or aluminum keg shoe
borium allowed on toe,max 1 1/2 in length and small spot on heels
poured heels allowed

Trail Pleasure
max 3/8 x 3/4 cold or hot rolled steel or aluminum shoe
max 1 1/2 turn back borium allowed on the caulks but the thickness of the shoe, caulk and borium must not exceed 7/8"

Lite shod (dropped 2 lb limit)
max 1/2 x 1" cold or hot roll steel or aluminum shoe
max 1 1/2" turnback
borium allowed on the caulks, but the thickness of shoe, caulk and borium must not exceed 1 1/8"

Plantation Pleasure
max 1/2 x 3/4" shoe open to any steel (this means tungsten)
max 1 1/2" turnback
borium allowed on the caulks of the shoe but the thickness of the shoe, caulk and borium must not exceed 1 1/8"

Park Pleasure
Max 1/2 x 1 1/2" shoe open to any steel (this means tungsten)
max 1 5/8" turnback
borium allowed on caulks but thickness on shoe caulk and borium must not exceed 1 1/8"

Acrylic can be used to repair and mend a hoof where shoe has been thrown and hoof damaged. Acrylic or any other material cannot be used for the purpose of extending the length of the natural hoof in any manner on both feet which includes the toes or heels. Acrylic can be used to fill in around the nail holes or cracks on the sides of the hoof.

No additional weight shall be allowed on or in the hoof, other than shoe, nails and band
Comment by Ashley on April 22, 2010 at 7:39pm
Park Perfomance is with a heavy shoe (can't remember the weight) and a wedge... or actually, wedge then shoe. No different than what most Saddlebreds show with.....
Comment by Carla Schube on April 22, 2010 at 5:29pm
I was under the impression that "Big Lick" and "Park Performance" were one in the same. If I'm wrong, then I apologize. You're not being confrontational - this is simply an exchange that needs to be addressed.
Comment by Ashley on April 22, 2010 at 2:33pm
I can see where you'd find big lick inhumane but why park performance? That's the first time I've heard that..... Not being confrontational but would really like to know your opinion on that division. Thanks!
Comment by Carla Schube on April 22, 2010 at 12:43pm
Thank you Ashley...well said. It is ONLY ONE event which is called "the Big Lick" or "Park Performance" event which is in question and is without question inhumane.
Comment by Ashley on April 22, 2010 at 12:31pm
I think what Tara&Nick were trying to say is that not ALL trainers and owner/trained folks sore their horses. Yes, we want the industry cleaned up, without a doubt but please don't pass judgement on all of those who do enjoy showing their horses. Not all baseball players use steroids. Not all reining trainers bleed their horses or teach them to slide by running them headlong into a wall. There are cheaters in every sport. JMHO......

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