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I rescued an bay Arabian stallion(2005 baby?)
he came with 2 sets of registration papers....I am assuming dam and sire.


Sire: Czar Zbrucz
Dam: Dividens Orzelita

does anybody know this colt......is he registered?????
any info would be appreciated
<3 Frankie

P.S. any info on his dam and sire would also be apprecciated

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Comment by Frankie(Evie) on March 3, 2009 at 8:56am
yeah it has been fun tracing his sire and dam :)
Comment by Georgia Martin on March 3, 2009 at 8:15am
If that is the case, then there is no hope of registration. They are still active in AHA registry, so no report of deaths of horses or owners.
Well, at least you have who his sire and dam are.. which is fun to trace.. doesn't hurt him a bit as a good trail or endurance gelding. He will be great and fun I'm sure.

Georgia
Comment by Frankie(Evie) on March 2, 2009 at 10:13pm
thank you so much for your help
Comment by Frankie(Evie) on March 2, 2009 at 10:13pm
from what i understand, both parents are deceased. both sets of registration papers came with him. as the owner had passed away, information is secondhand
Comment by Georgia Martin on March 2, 2009 at 10:02pm
Sire:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&horse=CZAR+ZBRUCZ&g=5&cellpadding=0&small_font=1&l

Dam:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/dividens+orzelita
Comment by Georgia Martin on March 2, 2009 at 9:58pm
Hello Frankie,
I'm going to put the information I know on your boy here, just in case anyone is interested in him they will have access to the information. I found out I can't start a comment and go to another area to get info.. as I lost my whole post, so starting again.
Your boy is about 75% polish lines, through his sire and the sire of his dam. The dam line of the dam is what is called (sometimes) Domestic or American bloodlines, mostly lines from England. Good old lines. He has a lot of great race horses in his pedigree, so will make a great trail or endurance horse I'm sure. If you want to learn more you can always take a name from the pedigree and google by adding Arabian stallion or Arabian mare after the name and it might bring up all kinds of history.
I'm afraid it will be hard to get this boy registered, as his sire nor dam is DNA typed. in order to get him registered they would have to be typed as well as your colt. This would run about $25 each for a member of the registry (about $20 to join I think) Plus with his age it will be about $275 to get his papers processed. (I had a friend that checked into all this for me). Now I know from experience that AHA (Arabian Horse Registry) sometimes runs specials or will help out to get horses registered, as I had a 10 year old that wasn't registered and I got it done easily with their help. But, I owned all horses, which helped.
My friend also went on All Breed Pedigree and cleaned up and added to the pedigrees of both his sire and dam for me, so anyone can see... and there are pictures of ancestors on there. I will post the web site where to find this on my next post, as I don't want to lose all this information and have to start again. :)
I have the owners name etc of his sire and dam should anyone like to try and get him registered. If anyone wants, they just need to email me.
Take care and don't hesitate to ask should you need anything else.

Georgia
Comment by Georgia Martin on March 2, 2009 at 9:04am
My friend Donna, sent me an email on your request last night.
Comment by Georgia Martin on March 2, 2009 at 9:03am
Hello Frankie,
Your boy looks to be possibly Pure Polish in bloodlines..

Dividens Orzelita was born in 1980 and her last registered foal was in 1996.

CZAR ZBRUCZ has no registered offspring.
So, it looks like they never registered your boy... email me and I can give you some information
that maybe can help to get him registered for you.
I've owned Arabians for 30 years I'd be glad to help in anyway I can.

Georgia
bgmartin13@gmail.com

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