snake creek was pay yearly in october and ride for the whole year. some things are going on with that land right now so i dont know what is going to happen when our permits expire there. blue creek is owned by a bunch of individuals and foxhunters. some of those people really dont like trail riders on their land. so you just cant take off and ride it . you pretty much have to be a land owner of blue creek property.it is not open to the public and you dont pay to ride it.pretty much must own land there.