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I recently had my horse shod, a week ago. She came up lame in all four feet the next day. I mean she can barely walk. We have been soaking her feet every day. I read on the net that taking them to the creek and soaking is the best. We have taken her the last two days and is doing better, but I am going to or was going to the Tennessee State saddle club association show in nine days. I am really flustered. I have been riding her all summer long on long trail rides and showing and having a blast and all the sudden, I just don't know what to think.
I had the farrier to come back out and he did foot test to see if she was tender on her feet but he said she was not sore. She didn't flinch, so i believed what he said. So why is she doing this?
Has this ever happened to any one else, if so How did you help your horse?

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I have never heard of trim founder. I have had a horse founder before but he had all the signs, cresty neck, fat deposits on shoulders and rump. I thought I had him in a small enough enclosure with limited grass. Did your horse have shoes on before? Does she have any of the signs listed above? I had to have my vet out to confirm founder.
Yes, she does. And the vet causes it metobolic something or the other, it is close to diabetis, not spelled right, we need spell checker on this thing.The trimming set all this in motion, something about having there feet up too long releases something from that cresty neck. So I have put her on a low sugar feed and bute and I have to soak her feet in ice water for a few days and give her a thyroid medicine to try to get rid of the cresty neck. I had her on limited grass too, but I guess for some horses limited is just not limited enough.
Thanks for asking,
Susan
I turn my horse out in my riding arena where there is next to no grass. I also give him an additive called remission that is suppose to help foundered horses. He is sound now, we took him on a ride this past weekend but kept it short. It took him about 6 months to become sound again.
Are you sure that the trim set all of this in motion or was it a coincidence? If your horse is overweight, fat pockets (deposits), the the neck is getting cresty, he could be having a metabolic syndrome. I ran into this with my horse while living in NC. After a series of test (insullin resistance, thyroid, and ACTH), I took him down to Ocala, FL to Peterson & Smith for four days of obversation and more test. $3000.00 later I was told he was obese and starting a metabolic syndrome which could go on to insullin resistance. The weight gain can also cause the lameness. I did not have a dry lot so used a grazing muzzle, soaked his hay that he got in his stall for one hour prior to giving, and spoke to feed companies to find out the NSC in the feed. The NSC is not put on bags. I feed Triple Crown and found out the Lite formula has a lower NSC than the Low Starch. They mentioned using Thyroid medication to speed up his metabolism if this didn't work. I was very diligent and got 110 lbs off of him. If you are positive that your farrier is correct, you might want to have an insullin resistance test run as extreme weight gain can cause lameness. Sorry this is so long, hope you get to the bottom of this problem. Nancy
I had a farrier trim my horse too short while in Arizona and he was so lame he could barely walk and didn't move much for a week or two. Gradually as his feet grew out he was ok. Needless to say I didn't use the farrier again, but he wasn't overweight either. His problem was a bad farrier--the ones in AZ don't know much about shoeing walking horses.

Sounds like your plans for the State show may be messed up now.
You are exactly right, that is what my vet told me. I didn't have to do all the expensive testing thought he has been a vet for 40 years and he has seen it all. I have to give her bute everyday for a while each day reducing grams, give her throl to take off the faty pockets and the cresty neck and soak her feet in ice for about 15-20 minutes a day for a while and I cannot let her out of stall. He also told me not to pick up her feet until except to put in ice. This has been about 3 days now and when I walk her out of stall it is like almost normal walk.
I bought this horse a year ago, back in the winter, with a winter coat, and I couldn't see the cresty neck or fat pockets. I knew she was over weight, and because of that she gets half the amount of feed that my quarter horses get plus I wasn't letting her out into the big grass pastures.Well now she is also on a low sugar/starch feed I hope. I buy my feed at co-op and all I could do is go by label. So I have only giving her a very small amount of feed plus mix in her medicine and a little of canola oil to help with her hair coat. Her hair doesn't slick off like my other horses. I couldn't figure that part out. I kinda wonder is she was boarder line cushinoid.
Vet said spotted saddle horse have a lot of pony breeding in them that could be past down.
The trim just set her problem in motion. He said not to blame the farrier. It is just that when he held her feet up to long for trim and possible to short it just made those enzyme or what ever come out from her cresty neck and went to her feet. Anyway he said she would get better, but for me not to push her and take her to state competion.
She is really a nice well gaited mare and I have had a blast with her this summer. She gets me and I get her. We make the best match.
Can you tell me what NSC means?
Susan, Let me know if the Thyroid medicine works. I was afraid to put Ace on it. I had read somewhere that if you give Thyroid Meds and they don't have a Thyroid condition you can actually make the Thyroid worst? But my vet recommended it? He still has the fat deposits on his rump and he is not on grass. I haven't been soaking his hay, how does that help?

Linda
NSC stands for Non Structural Carbohydrates. I was told (by vet) to soak the hay for 1 hr prior to feed as it lowers the sugar. I found this was easier to do by placing the flakes in a hay net and using a muck bucket filled with water. After soaking, I pulled the hay net out, drained, and hung in his stall. I've never understood the term "easy keeper" as it can take work! Now that "Doc" has lost the weight, the work is over but I'm constantly watching the weight and exercising is important.
Try a TRUE (not a farrier's field trim) Natural Barefoot Horse Trim. It might just do wonders for your horse hoof problems. A horse really can be ridden, in all types of environment and performance, barefoot IF, and I mean IF, it is trimmed correctly and conditioned. If your farrier pulls out a trim knife and starts slicing the frog, etc.---well, not good. Your horse needs to build up this callous condition. The toe should not be left long. That is like somebody pulling up on your fingernail--hmmm--how does that feel? Not good. Let your horse's body be itself.
James
Well, I know it has some to do with the trim, because as you were saying... He took out a new knife and cut away alot. I was really nervous when I saw that, he has never cut away that much and I have my horses done every 6-8 weeks on time.
I suppose this is a hoof, but what are you trying to tell me?

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